This is all great news - and a long time coming. Others have tried to produce competing extensions but aas of right now no one has come close to the feature set of docman
getimo
· 10 months ago
Really great news for one of the most used extensions!
Jurgen
· 10 months ago
I'm really looking forward to the update... Lack of native J. 1.5 was a real dealbreaker for me... I already started implementing a different file manager in my site. I've kept in in Joomla 1.0.x for over half a year, just waiting for Docman to make the leap (Legacy was no option because of SEO)... but with the end of cycle anouncement of Joomla 1.0.x I was really getting fed up.
I guess I'll keep waiting just a little longer (could you please give a timeframe?) as Docman is still my manager of choice: it's the best in it's kind!
Mathias
· 10 months ago
Hi Jurgen,
just curious about your statement >> Legacy was no option because of SEO How does legacy mode affect SEO? I don't see the connection
Mathias
Johan Janssens
· 10 months ago
A release data for DOCman isn't set yet, our aim is to have it our before the end of Q1. No promises though.
RJ Scott
· 10 months ago
I'm slightly confused- I can't seem to find anything in the forums about DOCman 1.5.0 beta. Is it close to release?
corywebb
· 10 months ago
Great news! Thanks for all your hard work on this. This is far and away the best document management component for Joomla!. I just wish it were available last week for Joomla! 1.5 native, so I could use it on HowToJoomla. I had to go with RokDownloads because it is native on 1.5.
Mathias
· 10 months ago
I've said it before and I'll say it again: I don't know what all the fuzz is with using legacy extensions, especially if they're tested on J!1.5. Obviously there are advantages to native extensions, but that doesn't mean there are important disadvantages to using legacy. The performance impact is minimal (http://blog.joomlatools.eu/2007/12/joomla-15rc4... ), and there are no known side effects.
Developers use 'native' as a buzz word to suggest that their extension is better than the other guy's. This helps to cultivate the idea that legacy is some dark voodoo magic that will get your pagerank down and screw up your site. In reality, 80% of the native extensions on JED perform a lot worse than any well-written J!1.0 + legacy. </rant>
In any case, if you want to use DOCman for a site, by all means, install the legacy version and upgrade when the native version is done. I've always provided easy upgrade paths (J1.0->J1.5, 1.3->1.4, and all maintenance releases) and I plan to keep doing so for the whole 1.x series.
(@Cory I didn't mean to single you out, I've been hearing nonsense about legacy all year)
Omar Ramos
· 10 months ago
For me, the main thing I have against 1.5 legacy components is the code structure, which I believe is a valid point. The newer 1.5 native way of organizing extensions is much easier for folks that would like to modify the code or create a different feel for the presentation (e.g. template overrides).
corywebb
· 10 months ago
@ Mathias - No worries. I didn't take it as a personal attack. I completely understand what you mean, and I have used legacy extensions before. I just made a conscious decision that I only wanted to use native extensions for HTJ. I was hoping that DocMan would be native before I was ready to launch, but it didn't quite make it. Thank you for all your hard work on this and other projects.
Johan Janssens
· 10 months ago
@Omar, Cory. Thanks for the feedback. Great to hear you guys like the new way of doing things in 1.5.
What a lot of people don't know is that DOCman has template overrides and has had them since version 1.2. Actually a lot of the concepts I implemented for DOCman 1.2 and 1.3 eventually ended up in the Joomla! 1.5 when I architected the framework.You could say that DOCman was way ahead of it's time. It's running a bit behind now, but we are going to set that straight in version 2.0.
Omar Ramos
· 10 months ago
I was asked by my boss to look up an application that instructors and students could use for sharing documents and I found the following program: https://www.filerun.com/features Which I had run into a year ago when I was looking for something similar. For an unlimited user license it would cost about $1800, so that had put it out of my reach then, but now I am looking at the features and think that it incorporates a lot of the ideas/features that I've been reading about on the forums and maybe it might be an additional product JoomlaTools could use for ideas that should be incorporated into upcoming DocMAN revisions :-).
Mathias
· 10 months ago
Hi Omar, you can add this feature suggestion to our new user feedback page at http://ideas.joomlatools.eu/pages/docman That way people can vote for it if they like it :-)
andrea
· 10 months ago
Great news here! but when it will be possible to download the 1.4 stable release and the 1.5 beta to test it out?
...anyway: thanks guys for your great effort in this must-have component!
itworks
· 10 months ago
That's good news. I would like to see custom fields (searchable too!) Also, a rating system would be nice. Thanks for your hard work!
mr t
· 10 months ago
Arf, this is taking like forever!!!
Where is 1.4 stable? ;-) I need it sooo bad!
mousek
· 9 months ago
Hi, how about 2 Download buttons?I mean if i post a file in Docman with external download link and want to add two external links?(mirrors)
michael
· 8 months ago
great news!
I very much like the idea of getting autothumb & autopoulate in the core! We use this setup since some time on or pdf downloads (to generate thumbnails of the first page, which is the magazine cover). Just one wish: the current max for the generated thumbs is 64x64 (with some hacking i got it to the size i want) but could you add a editable size option for auto-generated thumbnails please?
Webbie
· 8 months ago
Docman for 1.5 native .... vaporware. It's been so long coming that I'll believe it when I see it. So far, I've heard announcements about a beta version, but so far, it's nowhere to be found.
Rick
· 5 months ago
1.5 Native version? Don't hold your breath! Mathias, I mean no offense to you or anyone on your team. It's just been SO long that I cannot believe it will happen. Pity, as DM is such a fantastic extension. I still use it, legacy mode and all, in every site I design. There's just no competition. Please, please, please make this happen. I would gladly pay a fee to purchase when it's done!
Shiny
· 5 months ago
when appear docman 2.0 ?
Darcy
· 3 months ago
Any news on a release date for the J1.5 compatible version? I could certainly make use of a revamped version of DocMan - keep up the good work
Robert Gregor
· 2 months ago
Please update us as to the status of the 1.5 beta. I would gladly pay a one time, multi-site licensing fee, and if you need donations, just put up a donate button, I'll click.
Johan Janssens
· 2 months ago
A status update on 1.5 beta is in the works. Good progress has been made in the last 2 weeks. We regulary twit about our progress. If you want to be kept in the loop follow us on twitter (@joomlatools)
Robert, Have you read through this thread? It does not matter what you write, or offer to pay (I have as well), Docman is DEAD. The development crew has put out NOTHING official since the Valentine's Day release, excepting to dispute the need for a 1.5 native component. Whales will fly before we see this happen.
Johan Janssens
· 2 months ago
I'm dissapointed to read the tone of your message. DOCman has always been a community driven project and need contributions from it's community to move forward.
Contributions can be many things. We do appreciate donations to help us keep the project going but we would like to see more people contribute to the project directly. For example by helping out on the forums, contributing code or patche setc.
The 700$ we have received in donations since May (or +/- 100$ month) are very much appreciated and just about help us cover our resource expenses. Either more donations, contributions or another stream of project income is needed for us to be able to take DOCman to a next level.
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I guess I'll keep waiting just a little longer (could you please give a timeframe?) as Docman is still my manager of choice: it's the best in it's kind!
just curious about your statement
>> Legacy was no option because of SEO
How does legacy mode affect SEO? I don't see the connection
Mathias
Developers use 'native' as a buzz word to suggest that their extension is better than the other guy's. This helps to cultivate the idea that legacy is some dark voodoo magic that will get your pagerank down and screw up your site. In reality, 80% of the native extensions on JED perform a lot worse than any well-written J!1.0 + legacy.
</rant>
In any case, if you want to use DOCman for a site, by all means, install the legacy version and upgrade when the native version is done. I've always provided easy upgrade paths (J1.0->J1.5, 1.3->1.4, and all maintenance releases) and I plan to keep doing so for the whole 1.x series.
(@Cory I didn't mean to single you out, I've been hearing nonsense about legacy all year)
What a lot of people don't know is that DOCman has template overrides and has had them since version 1.2. Actually a lot of the concepts I implemented for DOCman 1.2 and 1.3 eventually ended up in the Joomla! 1.5 when I architected the framework.You could say that DOCman was way ahead of it's time. It's running a bit behind now, but we are going to set that straight in version 2.0.
https://www.filerun.com/features
Which I had run into a year ago when I was looking for something similar. For an unlimited user license it would cost about $1800, so that had put it out of my reach then, but now I am looking at the features and think that it incorporates a lot of the ideas/features that I've been reading about on the forums and maybe it might be an additional product JoomlaTools could use for ideas that should be incorporated into upcoming DocMAN revisions :-).
you can add this feature suggestion to our new user feedback page at http://ideas.joomlatools.eu/pages/docman
That way people can vote for it if they like it :-)
...anyway: thanks guys for your great effort in this must-have component!
Where is 1.4 stable? ;-) I need it sooo bad!
I very much like the idea of getting autothumb & autopoulate in the core! We use this setup since some time on or pdf downloads (to generate thumbnails of the first page, which is the magazine cover). Just one wish: the current max for the generated thumbs is 64x64 (with some hacking i got it to the size i want) but could you add a editable size option for auto-generated thumbnails please?
Donations are also welcome. To donate go here : http://www.joomlatools.eu/donate.html
Have you read through this thread? It does not matter what you write, or offer to pay (I have as well), Docman is DEAD. The development crew has put out NOTHING official since the Valentine's Day release, excepting to dispute the need for a 1.5 native component. Whales will fly before we see this happen.
Contributions can be many things. We do appreciate donations to help us keep the project going but we would like to see more people contribute to the project directly. For example by helping out on the forums, contributing code or patche setc.
The 700$ we have received in donations since May (or +/- 100$ month) are very much appreciated and just about help us cover our resource expenses. Either more donations, contributions or another stream of project income is needed for us to be able to take DOCman to a next level.
Choice is yours !